Brett's Games

Inland Team

An Inland Sea Map Played as a Team.

Beyond The Sword
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Starting Position
The Human Player Starting Position, a fairly decent plains grasslands mix with a few hills, rocks and wheat in the fat cross, on a river, so nice, not great, but a solid nice
Huayna Capac
Human Player
The Computer Player Teammate for the Human Players Starting Position, a plains hill in the middle of a plains forest
AI Teammate

Map Settings
Team Play
All Victory Conditions

Mod Settings

Planned Strategies

Quechua Rush
With Wheat in my Fat Cross and Agriculture already researched, I will first build a Worker; and then, pump out a half dozen or so Quechuas in a bid to take over a rival Civilization's capitol. If it works well enough, I may try taking out two Civilizations. But I doubt I will be that efficient.

Religious Power House
At the same time, I intend to hi-jack Hannibal's research (by telling him what to research; and then, having him switch out at the last minute), so I found two of the starting Religions in my capitol (via Polytheism and Monotheism). After that, I intend to let the Carthagians research what they will... until it is time to hi-jack them again.

Wonder Crazy
Lastly, I expect part of the fun of this game to be in going completely and utterly Wonder Crazy in my capitol. We'll see how that goes. As crowded as we are (twelve civilizations on a standard size map), there may be more pressing concerns.

Strategies & Spoilers

So don't read beyond this point, if you don't want to know.

Stone, Wheat, Silver in order of importance for me this game, I was a Wonder Builder, so that Stone helped

Score 28,736
Conquest Victory
Everyone Vassalled

Ingame Notes

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Planned Strategy Debriefing

Quechua Rush

This failed miserably. I sent a half dozen Quechua's against a lone fortified archer (probably on a hilltop) and lost all my troops. At which point, I restarted the game. Clearly, this strategy is not for me.

Religious Powerhouse

At this point, I'd have to load the game to remember how many religions I founded. But best guess, it was only the one (or two). And that did not make much game play difference. I mean, having the Holy Shrine, paid off in gold. But I wound up switching to Catherine of Russia's religion to avoid a Holy War. So, it's not like my religion became the dominant religion on the board.

Wonder Crazy

I enjoy building Wonders. And as I was playing this on Noble, I was able to build over half the Wonders. It was fun. I question how much they aided in winning the game. I mean, they certainly helped making my Civilization technologically dominant. But once I was (technologically dominant), war was the road to victory.

Notes on Team Play

Under the right circumstances, I would play with a Computer AI Teammate again. But in the next game, I've decided to give myself two starting cities on a custom map, instead, to give me a similar sort of advantage.

The Big Three

Hannibal was on my team and we fought against two other two man teams and a three man team, the later of which I wound up calling The Big Three. Due to it's size, The Big Three dominated the early half of the game.

Hannibal on Defence

Hannibal helped me stay alive, while I built Wonders. I was, also, able to co-opt his research (by switching him at the last minute) and become the founder of (at least, one) religion. So, that part worked as expected.

Teams Are Not Coordinated

The opponent Civilizations (even if on the same team) acted independently. They did not attack the same cities in unison. And much more importantly, they were willing to negotiate for peace at different terms. Sometimes, one would not talk to me, while another would offer a City for peace. Another time, I was able to broker peace for the price of a single technology, rather than losing a City.

Teams Vassal as a Group

I had to conquer all but one of Russia's cities, before both Russia and Byzantine would Capitulate.

Vassal States is a Broken Mechanic

I'll have to study this more on standard play. But in this game, rather than surrendering or breaking their Vassalship, both France and Germany preferred to be completely wiped out. This is not as it should be. As much as I like Vassals, in the next game, I am playing without.

Tech Trading

As far as I know, my teammate (Hannibal) did not make a single Tech Trade. I had No Tech Brokering on (see a bit more on this below), so I was at a slight disadvantage whenever he discovered a jointly researched Tech.

Inland Sea Map

The only thing I have to say about the Inland Sea map (other than it being circular; and so, fairly even) was that it made Sea Techs and Naval Power meaningless. A land mass in the center of that sea (say an Archipelago of some sort) would have changed the importance of a navy somewhat. It's something to keep in mind for a custom map.

No Tech Brokering

I found No Tech Brokering to be a nice middle ground between regular Tech Trading and No Tech Trading. In No Tech Brokering, one can trade that which they discover, but not else wise. I think I will be playing more games on this setting in the future, as I like the ability to trade techs here and there, but putting a limit on it, brings back some of the nuances of No Tech Trading (in that slow researchers stay backwards and ignorant).

God is Dead

Finally, I was surprised to learn that I could not build Monasteries in the late game. And since Monasteries are (for the most) a pre-requisite for Missionaries, I was unable to spread many of the religions in that later part of the game.

Plot Culture

The Problem: Cultural Isolation

Here we see a newly captured Paris with no Plot Tiles to work as it is culturally isolated
Cultural Isolation
Here we have Karakorum, we me controlling the fat cross, deep in enemy terriroty
Cultural Survival

Paris (on the left) is isolated, while Karakorum (on the right, in the upper right) thrives. What gives?

The Formula

Cities get more culture every turn. And it is pretty straightforward to determine a City's culture, simply hover the mouse over a City's Name Bar. And this will show both the City's Total Culture and the additional Culture Per Turn (CPT) it is receiving.

All plots on the game board have culture as well. For every plot that a City influences, that plot gets two cultural values added to it (each and every turn).

+ 20 * Extra_Size
Where CPT is the Influencing City's Culture Per Turn.

This Extra Size notion (on the other hand) is not so easy to put into words (even if it is a fairly simple concept). But this is where almost all the Plot Culture in the game comes from, so it's good to understand.

Here's the City Cultural Size Chart.

S  Minimum  Name
1        0  Poor
2       10  Fledgling
3      100  Developing
4      500  Refined
5    5,000  Influential
6   50,000  Legendary
  S is the Size or Influence Level of a City
  Minimum is the Minimum Culture a City must have to obtain this size
  And, Name is what this level of Influence is called.

A City's Influence stretches outward one square for each Influence Level it has. So, at the start, a City is at Influence Level 1 and only has Influence over the surrounding nine tiles. Whereas, at Influence Level Six (the highest), the Influence stretches out for six squares.

Extra Size is how many sizes more than it needs to reach a given Plot Tile a given City has.

So, a Size 6 City, with CPT=10, adds 110 point of Plot Tile Culture to every Tile that is one square away every turn.

CPT + (20 * ExtraSize)
 10 + (20 * (6 - 1))
 10 + (20 * 5)
 10 + 100
Every City adds Culture to every Plot within its Influence every turn. So, any given Plot's Culture may be Influenced by multiple Friendly Cities and a divergent array of Enemy Cities each and every turn. Of the Civilizations that control a City that exerts Cultural Influence over a Plot the Civilization that has the most Plot Culture in that Plot controls that Plot. Eh, it's a lot of words. So, two conditions:

The Long View

So, why is Paris surrounded by French controlled tiles? Because France still controls Lyons (and that other City, blocked out to the left); and so, a French City still reaches those tiles. But even worse than that, Lyons (and that other City, blocked out to the left) still continue to add culture to all those Plot Tiles.

And although gaining control of those Plot Tiles is just a matter of exerting enough Influence, in many instances that will never happen.

Which is to say, it can be quite the hopeless battle to fight a Culture War against a well entrenched Civilization.

Note, the following tables are not to be studied (in my opinion, anyway). But rather, are simply to give a vague idea as to the nature of the situation.

A Simple City (CPT=2)
The City starts with two culture per turn (say, as from the Creative Leadership Trait) and no additional cultural improvements are made. Thus, at Turn 50, the City is producing two culture per turn, and Plot Tiles one square away (i.e. those next to the City) have an even thousand culture in them, those two Plot Tiles away have ninety, and there is no culture in those any further away (from this City).


Culturally Improving City (CPT=2 +2/50Turns)
A City that starts at CPT=2, but builds a cultural improvement worth +2CPT every fifty turns. Note, the results shown in these tables should maybe be shifted by a single turn, as I don't know exactly when (whether it is at the beginning or the end of the turn) Cultural Influence is calculated (or even what comes first, Culture or the Build Queue). Or in other words, at Turn 51 (not shown), the CPT is 4.


Please Note: The tables above track a different number of turns than the tables below.

Captured City Fighting Cultural Battle (CPT=0 +2/5Turns)
A theoretically captured City that is producing a new culture building worth two additional culture every five turns.


Captured City with Heightened Temple (CPT=14)
In this game, due to Wonders and Civics, a Christian Temple was worth fourteen culture per turn. So, building a lone Temple was as good as cranking out a slew of lesser cultural improvements.


Cultural Temple Powerhouse

+1 CPT for City with State Religion
+1 CPT for State Religion Temple
+5 CPT for Sistine Chapel
+100% for Free Speech

14 Culture Per Turn

In Summary

The main takeaway (for me, anyhow) is that a Creative Type gets all the advantages of a mid-level cultural builder right out of the gate. And even at such a low level of cultural output, exerting control over the surrounding countryside of a newly captured City may well prove nigh impossible (you know, as long as another City's Cultural Influence extends to the Plot in question).

And a few key Buildings (say, a Christian Temple with the appropriate Wonders and Civics) can outperform a bevy of lesser improvements.

In the end, the formulas don't really matter to me.

Some opponents will prioritize culture; and so, winning a cultural war against them will not be possible. While other will not; and thus, pushing back their borders with culture will be possible.

Culture Flipping

If a City is controlled by one Civilization but the underlying Plot is controlled by another (and the City in question was not captured by the one from other in the first place, as there are no flip-backs) there is a (small) chance (every turn) that the City will Revolt and offer to switch sides. The first Revolt always fails. And the formula for Revolt is complicated enough I cannot be bothered to try and understand it. Suffice to say, garrison troops help to prevent a Revolt. But taking over any nearby Cities that have any Cultural Influence, which extends to the City in question, will likely work better in the long run. Just saying.

Research is King

By turn 100, research is pushing 40 beakers a turn, those downward spikes are periods of Revolution
First 100 Turns
Note the heavy overlap between culture and research, this may have a lot to do with my Temple building provoclivities
All 358 Turns

These are the same graphs, as I developed in the last post. Spikes to zero are from Revolutions (from changing Civics). Also note, the increase in Research (and less so, in Culture) over time. I am convinced that Research Speed is linked to Victory. So, I will be concentrating on it from now on.

Also, one last image of my capitol before I sign off. It is both a Research and Cultural powerhouse.

That List of Buildings Just Will Not quit, everything but the factory buildings, for some reason, I do not find those to be compelling

I deconstruct my creation of a Map Level (call it a simple Scenario) as best as I am able in the next post.